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  • 1.  DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 08-30-2024 02:35 PM

    This year we have been actively working towards not accepting DAF payments or bifurcated payments for our two signature events. We receive a lot of resistance from donors and at times their legal teams regarding this. What is the best way to navigate these conversations without discuraging donor participation of these key initiatives?



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    RNO
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  • 2.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 08-30-2024 02:42 PM
    Share with them the news that you are helping them avoid violating IRS rules that could result in fines or penalties. They could also cause fines and penalties to their DAF provider, which could cause the provider to take legal action against them for violating their terms and agreements.

    John

    John H. Taylor, Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier Street
    Durham, NC     27705

    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987






  • 3.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 08-30-2024 02:53 PM

    Thank you, John. Is there any liability the charitable organization for accepting the gifts or is it truly a donor issue? In this scenario, the donor committed to a $25K event sponsorship that grants him a table for 10. He sent two payments from his DAF, one for $23,250 and one for $1,750 (value of goods and services). 



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    Ruthy Ocasio
    Baptist Health Foundation
    ruthyo@baptisthealth.net
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  • 4.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 08-30-2024 02:59 PM
    Sure there is an issue - you would be knowingly violating IRS regulations. It's a form of tax fraud. Ask your Counsel if that's something you should be doing.

    John

    John H. Taylor, Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier Street
    Durham, NC     27705

    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987







  • 5.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 15 days ago

    John,

    Why would this be fraud, if the donation portion is sent by the DAF and the FMV is paid separately?



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    Abbey Soclof
    Yeshiva University
    abbey.soclof@yu.edu
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  • 6.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 15 days ago
    The IRS prohibits this! It is called bifurcation and disallowed by the IRS.

    John

    John H. Taylor
    919.816.5903 (Cell/Text)

    Big Ideas; Small Keyboard





  • 7.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 15 days ago
    I cannot recall if I have shared this link before - but it's a good one! And it addresses this topic and several others. See the events section for this issue:






  • 8.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 15 days ago

    Hi John, I'm sure it's on the site somewhere, but if a donor requests money from his DAF for a gala, but cannot attend and gives the table back to the university. He is not incurring any incidental benefits. We would not send him a tax receipt, but just a thank you acknowledgement for the gift. Is this ok? 

    Thank you! 

    Holley 



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    Holley Nielsen
    Utah Valley University
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  • 9.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 15 days ago
    So, the DAF would never allow the use of their funds to purchase a table. So the case you describe could never exist. The individual must certify that no benefits will be given.

    However, the individual could request a DAF grant refusing the table and all benefits in advance. But there would not be anything for the individual to turn in.

    John

    John H. Taylor
    919.816.5903 (Cell/Text)

    Big Ideas; Small Keyboard





  • 10.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 15 days ago

    Sure thing, end of day brain. I think that he just recommended a grant for the university- and was letting us know he will not be attending this year. I get what you are saying that he would not have any thing to turn back in. Thanks so much for the speedy reply. HN 



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    Holley Nielsen
    Utah Valley University
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  • 11.  RE: DAF Payments for event Sponsorships/Tables/Tickets

    Posted 15 days ago
    The other thing I realized after I pressed send was that knowing the rules, even if the individual tried to get the DAF to buy the table, you would not have allowed it!

    John

    John H. Taylor
    919.816.5903 (Cell/Text)

    Big Ideas; Small Keyboard