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Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 2:12:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Thank you so much, Joel, I was feeling like Alice in Wonderland there for a while.  It's actually helpful to know that they will likely never reconcile. Bummer, though.

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:27 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Susan,

I agree with you that they are not producing the same results.

I disagree with Blackbaud that the settings are the same.

WebView excludes certain payment types and reflects soft credits and matching gifts differently than the many options provided in DBView.

We have accepted that WebView will provide a good estimate, but no numbers are official unless they come out of DBView.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

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Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 2:12:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:21:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Thank you so much, Joel, I was feeling like Alice in Wonderland there for a while.  It's actually helpful to know that they will likely never reconcile. Bummer, though.

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:27 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Susan,

I agree with you that they are not producing the same results.

I disagree with Blackbaud that the settings are the same.

WebView excludes certain payment types and reflects soft credits and matching gifts differently than the many options provided in DBView.

We have accepted that WebView will provide a good estimate, but no numbers are official unless they come out of DBView.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

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Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 2:12:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:25:00 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

I have been able to get DBView to match WebView, but I am excluding things I really want included.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

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Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:21:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Thank you so much, Joel, I was feeling like Alice in Wonderland there for a while.  It's actually helpful to know that they will likely never reconcile. Bummer, though.

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:27 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Susan,

I agree with you that they are not producing the same results.

I disagree with Blackbaud that the settings are the same.

WebView excludes certain payment types and reflects soft credits and matching gifts differently than the many options provided in DBView.

We have accepted that WebView will provide a good estimate, but no numbers are official unless they come out of DBView.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 2:12:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10/14/2022 10:27:00 AM
From: Christina McNamee
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Are you changing the settings in the control panel for what's counted? That's what's been integral for me.

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:25:00 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

I have been able to get DBView to match WebView, but I am excluding things I really want included.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:21:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Thank you so much, Joel, I was feeling like Alice in Wonderland there for a while.  It's actually helpful to know that they will likely never reconcile. Bummer, though.

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:27 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Susan,

I agree with you that they are not producing the same results.

I disagree with Blackbaud that the settings are the same.

WebView excludes certain payment types and reflects soft credits and matching gifts differently than the many options provided in DBView.

We have accepted that WebView will provide a good estimate, but no numbers are official unless they come out of DBView.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 2:12:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10/14/2022 10:35:00 AM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

I have done what I can, but we have some non-gift gift records that need to be excluded and I can't limit by fund or fund category.  That is our issue.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

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Original Message:
Sent: 10/14/2022 10:27:00 AM
From: Christina McNamee
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Are you changing the settings in the control panel for what's counted? That's what's been integral for me.

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:25:00 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

I have been able to get DBView to match WebView, but I am excluding things I really want included.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:21:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Thank you so much, Joel, I was feeling like Alice in Wonderland there for a while.  It's actually helpful to know that they will likely never reconcile. Bummer, though.

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:27 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Susan,

I agree with you that they are not producing the same results.

I disagree with Blackbaud that the settings are the same.

WebView excludes certain payment types and reflects soft credits and matching gifts differently than the many options provided in DBView.

We have accepted that WebView will provide a good estimate, but no numbers are official unless they come out of DBView.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 2:12:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Thanks Michele, this is really helpful. I'm checking my nxt settings!

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-14-2022 09:44 AM
From: Michele Hicks
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

We have non-gift records too.  What I've done is excluded by fund type to remove from our NXT Reports.

 

Our fund types are:

 

Responsibility ~ Self-Assurance ~ Arranger ~ Relator ~ Input

 

Original Message:
Sent: 10/14/2022 10:35:00 AM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

I have done what I can, but we have some non-gift gift records that need to be excluded and I can't limit by fund or fund category.  That is our issue.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/14/2022 10:27:00 AM
From: Christina McNamee
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Are you changing the settings in the control panel for what's counted? That's what's been integral for me.

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:25:00 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

I have been able to get DBView to match WebView, but I am excluding things I really want included.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 3:21:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: RE: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Thank you so much, Joel, I was feeling like Alice in Wonderland there for a while.  It's actually helpful to know that they will likely never reconcile. Bummer, though.

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:27 PM
From: Joel Clasemann
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Susan,

I agree with you that they are not producing the same results.

I disagree with Blackbaud that the settings are the same.

WebView excludes certain payment types and reflects soft credits and matching gifts differently than the many options provided in DBView.

We have accepted that WebView will provide a good estimate, but no numbers are official unless they come out of DBView.

Joel

Joel Clasemann (he, him, his) Director of Advancement Services jclasema@css.edu | 218-723-6479 css.edu/campaign

Confidentiality Notice: The content of this message is the proprietary and confidential property of The College of St. Scholastica, and should be treated as such. If you are not a designated recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited. You may not review, copy or share this message; please delete this message from your system and notify me immediately by reply e-mail. Any unauthorized use or distribution of the content of this message is not permitted and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and are not endorsed by The College.  

Original Message:
Sent: 10/13/2022 2:12:00 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Susan,

We most certainly had this issue at the start. I found that adding the appropriate gift types into the applicable Insight in NXT fixed the problem. For us, it was stock gifts in excess of the pledge amount that somehow got missed during the original set up. Since that has been revised, we haven't had any problems other than sync times.

------------------------------
Denise Mattie
Director of Advancement Services
McMurry University
mattie.denise@mcm.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:12 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Thanks very much-- this is great to know. I still hold out hope that we can work out our settings so we can generate the same committed revenue numbers in both views.
I am trying to encourage the team to use dynamic  reporting in NXT, and it undermines confidence in our tools when web and reports don't match.  
For us, write offs seem to be causing the differences. Blackbaud techs haven't  yet explained to me why these are going sideways. But I am still hopeful we can find that answer.

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------

Original Message:
Sent: 10-14-2022 09:01 AM
From: Denise Mattie
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Susan,

We most certainly had this issue at the start. I found that adding the appropriate gift types into the applicable Insight in NXT fixed the problem. For us, it was stock gifts in excess of the pledge amount that somehow got missed during the original set up. Since that has been revised, we haven't had any problems other than sync times.

------------------------------
Denise Mattie
Director of Advancement Services
McMurry University
mattie.denise@mcm.edu

Original Message:
Sent: 10-13-2022 01:12 PM
From: Susan Quinn
Subject: BB NXT vs Dbase-- Where is truth?

Hi all,
I have a long-open ticket with blackbaud, and I wonder if I am the only one! Tell me I'm not alone!
When I run a report of total committed revenue in NXT, I see a number that does not match the same report in the dbase view.

I have had a ticket open with BB since July. They confirmed my reporting settings are identical on both sides. 

For the purposes of troubleshooting, we narrowed the report to a single fiscal year and fund. They told me they found a "bug" which they corrected.  (I'm not sure what they found.)  However, when I open the parameters up to two years, the numbers are still not matching.

Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Thanks,

Susan Quinn

------------------------------
Susan Quinn
Executive Director of Advancement Services
Lenoir-Rhyne University
Susan.quinn@lr.edu
------------------------------