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  • 1.  stock gift with medallions

    Posted 10-31-2025 05:49 PM

    Hi all,

    Never thought I would need to think about this again, however:

    We have a donor who for some years now has been giving us shares of a large public firm based in Omaha, and we have been signing medallion forms. Then, some months later, we get a check from the corporation, via a trust company for the proceeds (minus a small fee).

    Is the gift occurring when we sign the medallion, when the form is given to his brokerage, when we receive the check, or something else? It seems rather unlikely that the donor is choosing to liquidate the stocks and give us cash.

    Apologies if this is already discussed, the search function is new to me.

    Jon



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    Jon Garrow
    Lutheran Community Services NW
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  • 2.  RE: stock gift with medallions

    Posted 11-01-2025 06:13 AM
    I am confused by the part where you say YOU sign the Medallion. A "Medallion Guarantee" is a form of "Signature Guarantee." The donor must sign that and obtain the seal/medallion.

    If that has been done (and you are simply affixing your signature to complete the certificate transfer), the gift date is the later of when the certificate was mailed/delivered or the guarantee. At that time the security has been irrevocably "delivered," regardless of how long it takes you to complete the paperwork or sell the stock.

    You have probably seen my white paper on gift dates. Here's a short paragraph I use for some gift acceptance policies:

    When you make a gift of stock that requires a medallion signature guarantee, the date of your gift is based on when you give up control of the shares-not the date you sign the forms. If the stock is transferred electronically, the gift date is the day the shares are transferred from your account to the charity. If you mail a physical stock certificate and a signed stock power (with a medallion guarantee), the gift date is the postmark date of the later document sent. In all cases, the IRS considers your gift complete on the day you no longer can change or cancel the transfer.

    John

    John H. Taylor, Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier Street
    Durham, NC     27705

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  • 3.  RE: stock gift with medallions

    Posted 11-04-2025 06:18 PM

    Thanks for this, John. I checked and the donor is signing the page with the SIGNATURE GUARANTEED/MEDALLION GUARANTEED part. Our staff signed a second page, which has a Substitute Form W-9 and indicates they'll be creating a new account for us. That was dated 5/1/25, and I believe all of this took place via mail.

    Just yesterday we got a statement confirming we own the shares.

    It sounds like 5/1 is a reasonable date to choose, unless we've heard differently from the donor?

    Jon



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    Jon Garrow
    Lutheran Community Services NW
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  • 4.  RE: stock gift with medallions

    Posted 11-04-2025 06:33 PM
    The date of gift is when the donor has mailed/delivered the certificate AND has signed the signature guarantee and mailed that (or hand delivered) - bit the later of the date delivered of those two documents. When YOU sign the document is not important.

    John Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 919.816.5903 Big ideas; small keyboard







  • 5.  RE: stock gift with medallions

    Posted 11-04-2025 07:08 PM

    Got it - we did have a gap between receiving the documents and signing them and mailing, so I'll chase down when we actually received the documents.

    Jon



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    Jon Garrow
    Lutheran Community Services NW
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  • 6.  RE: stock gift with medallions

    Posted 11-04-2025 07:19 PM
    The timing is dictated by the method of delivery. Details are outlined in my Annual Date of Gift Summary. But the shorthand is if sent by mail, it's the date processed by the USPS at the origination point. If sent by a delivery service, it is the date you received the package. And, if hand-delivered it is the date an employee of your institution accepted it.

    John

    John Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 919.816.5903 Big ideas; small keyboard