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  • 1.  Real Estate to Annuity/Pledge Payment

    Posted 01-05-2024 09:14 AM

    I've got a weird situation. We have a donor who is selling us his rental property, which we are then immediately selling. It was agreed that this would fund two annuities for his children, but there is $5,500 left over from the "fair market value" that he wants to go toward his outstanding pledge. 

    Currently, the only "receipt" we send to the donor for an annuity is the paperwork that is created through Crescendo. If we were receiving property that wasn't going toward an annuity, we would send a letter acknowledging their gift in kind. 

    How should I handle the additional amount that is going toward the pledge? Would we still need to send a gift in kind letter along with the annuity paperwork/agreement?

    Is there anything else I should be aware of with this situation? 



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    Suzie Weesner
    Indiana Wesleyan University
    Suzie.Weesner@indwes.edu
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  • 2.  RE: Real Estate to Annuity/Pledge Payment

    Posted 01-05-2024 09:38 AM
    I do not see any gift in what you have described.

    You are buying property. There's no gift there.

    You are selling property. There's no gift there.

    The donor should sell the property independently, create the two CGAs, and make a cash gift of whatever is left over.

    If the donor insists on the original plan, you need to turn this over to Counsel and the CFO, as I cannot imagine how a tax-deductible gift can be derived from this.

    John

    John H. Taylor
    Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier St.
    Durham, NC   27705
    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987






  • 3.  RE: Real Estate to Annuity/Pledge Payment

    Posted 01-05-2024 09:42 AM

    I misspoke - He is not selling us the property - he is giving us the property which we are then selling immediately. 



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    Suzie Weesner
    Indiana Wesleyan University
    Suzie.Weesner@indwes.edu
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  • 4.  RE: Real Estate to Annuity/Pledge Payment

    Posted 01-05-2024 09:54 AM
    Then the donation is the property which is being used to fund two CGA's. The gift you will record is the appraised value of the property but applied to CGA instruments (which will reduce the deductible amount). The difference between the appraised value and the CGA costs is an overage you can use however desired. But, if to satisfy a pledge it would be recorded as a property gift toward that pledge - not cash.

    John
    John H. Taylor
    Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier St.
    Durham, NC   27705
    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987







  • 5.  RE: Real Estate to Annuity/Pledge Payment

    Posted 01-05-2024 10:14 AM

    What should be sent to the donor regarding what is going toward the pledge? That is my main question. Would we send a gift in kind letter just to acknowledge the receipt of the property or is there something else we should be sending to the donor?

    Thanks! 



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    Suzie Weesner
    Indiana Wesleyan University
    Suzie.Weesner@indwes.edu
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  • 6.  RE: Real Estate to Annuity/Pledge Payment

    Posted 01-05-2024 10:35 AM
    The donation was of the real estate. A single receipt for that property donation, reflecting the Chas which will reduce the deductible amount is sufficient. The receipt can mention you applied any overage toward the outstanding pledge.

    John H. Taylor 
    919.816.5903 (Cell/Text)

    Big Ideas; Small Keyboard





  • 7.  RE: Real Estate to Annuity/Pledge Payment

    Posted 01-08-2024 03:06 PM

    When we last received a gift of real estate a number of years ago to fund a CGA, it was put in the agreement that the annuity would be based off the sale price vs. the FMV.  The property ended up selling lower than FMV.  What's standard practice with funding CGAs with property? 



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    Michael Manning
    University of New England
    Mmanning6@une.edu
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