Not that it really matters in this discussion, but I thought I would add that since 2021, CASE has recommended against counting any "bequest intentions" unless the donor was 65+.
Although I still would not record these notifications at all toward any official fundraising goal, as the individual is only 62 (I think you said) in this instance, their age might be something further to consider.
See page 36 of the 2021 CASE Standards for more details!
John
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Original Message:
Sent: 6/1/2023 1:56:00 PM
From: Nancy Vinje Jones
Subject: RE: DAF & Successor Election
Thank you John. We have used the proposal/opportunity avenue to give officer credit when a pledge could not be booked. I appreciate your responses and input today!
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Nancy Vinje Jones
Ball State University Foundation
nvinjejones@bsu.edu
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-01-2023 11:56 AM
From: John Taylor
Subject: DAF & Successor Election
It's great your gift officer is working on these. However, besides adding moves or contact reports - or maybe a proposal - there's nothing you can book.
These assets do not belong to the individual. They belong to the DAF. Therefore, no bonafide pledge can be entered except on the DAF account. And only then with a written statement from the DAF stipulating to a minimum dollar amount.
Furthermore, as with a will, these assignments are revocable. The individual can execute a replacement version at any time.
These are great to have and possibly earn the gift officer some recognition toward goals. But there's nothing here you can count or book - yet.
John
John H. Taylor
Principal
John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
2604 Sevier St.
Durham, NC 27705
919.816.5903 (cell/text)
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Original Message:
Sent: 6/1/2023 12:16:00 PM
From: Nancy Vinje Jones
Subject: RE: DAF & Successor Election
Ahh that is very interesting. In fact I do know this particular individual will be directing more gifts out of this fund, at least to us, in the mean time. Have you got a recommendation for handling this situation? Our Planned Giving Officer is making it a priority to get more of our donors who direct gifts from DAFs to designate our foundation as a successor on those funds too. Mind blowing! haha Thank you!
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Nancy Vinje Jones
Ball State University Foundation
nvinjejones@bsu.edu
Original Message:
Sent: 06-01-2023 10:58 AM
From: John Taylor
Subject: DAF & Successor Election
But do you know for a fact they will not make any distributions between now and when they pass? I do not see how you can reliably "book" any pledge without as written statement from the DAF (not the individual) you will receive a minimum amount.
John
John H. Taylor
Principal
John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
2604 Sevier St.
Durham, NC 27705
919.816.5903 (cell/text)
Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987
Original Message:
Sent: 6/1/2023 11:43:00 AM
From: Nancy Vinje Jones
Subject: RE: DAF & Successor Election
We know how much is in the fund, I think we can calculate within reason how long the donor is expected to live (he is not deceased and is 62 y/o) and that they are dividing the asset in half between us and one other foundation.
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Nancy Vinje Jones
Ball State University Foundation
nvinjejones@bsu.edu
Original Message:
Sent: 06-01-2023 10:25 AM
From: John Taylor
Subject: DAF & Successor Election
Do you know how much is in the fund, how long the donor is expected to live, and how much they plan to recommend to other charities before there is a balance to give to you?
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Original Message:
Sent: 6/1/2023 11:22:00 AM
From: Nancy Vinje Jones
Subject: RE: DAF & Successor Election
Interesting. Would you elaborate? I'm being asked to "book" an expected dollar amount for our campaign totals. Thanks!
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Nancy Vinje Jones
Ball State University Foundation
nvinjejones@bsu.edu
Original Message:
Sent: 06-01-2023 10:08 AM
From: John Taylor
Subject: DAF & Successor Election
The DAF will be the legal donor. However, there isn't anything you can "book" at this time, as no specific dollar amount is being guaranteed.
John
John H. Taylor
Principal
John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
2604 Sevier St.
Durham, NC 27705
919.816.5903 (cell/text)
Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987
Original Message:
Sent: 6/1/2023 11:06:00 AM
From: Nancy Vinje Jones
Subject: DAF & Successor Election
Hello. We recently received a Successor Election document naming our Foundation as one of two charitable organizations to succeed the individual and receive the remaining assets of a donor advised fund upon his passing. Is this a bookable planned gift and if so, on which record should it booked to? The individual or the donor advised fund soft crediting the individual? I am accustomed to booking planned gift bequests and such directly to the individual donor. In this case, it looks like the assets would be coming directly from the donor advised fund. Could use input and advice from your experiences. Thank you!
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Nancy Vinje Jones
Ball State University Foundation
nvinjejones@bsu.edu
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