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  • 1.  *EXT* [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information

    Posted 09-06-2019 01:04 PM
    We are currently contracting with LiveAlumni. Has anyone used them? Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image003.jpg@01D5649A.7631BD10] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:01 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Have you checked into HEPData and their suite of EmployerFind services? John John H. Taylor Principal John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:38 AM Geri Colangelo <Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu<mailto:Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu>> wrote: Good morning, I’m wondering what other educational institutions are doing to find employment information on their alumni. We no longer do an alumni directory book since everything is now on our online alumni directory. However, this doesn’t seem to be yielding the results we were expecting/hoping for. Are there recommended pay-sites that others have found successful in obtaining business information on their alumni constituents. I’d love to get responses from anyone who has encountered this challenge and to hear what sources are available to help fill the gaps in collecting this type of data. Many thanks! Geri Geri Colangelo Sr. Data Manager, Development Office New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115 617-585-1166 www.necmusic.edu<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.necmusic.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPaulaRushford%40FERRIS.EDU%7C4dc4f024d8fd42e1079d08d732d2c0aa%7C64b0362e85c04e95a4ce5651d96cb739%7C1%7C0%7C637033753071985078&sdata=ZA9AWhoikxQlivo9pJRbiEWG%2Bnfd4jfXM%2FNKaoGDYT0%3D&reserved=0> **Notice** This message is from a sender outside of the Ferris Office 365 mail system. Use caution when clicking links or opening attachments. For assistance determining if this email is safe, please contact the ITSC. ________________________________


  • 2.  Re: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information

    Posted 09-06-2019 02:03 PM
    Paula et al, We’ve used them and been mildly happy. There are things to note though: 1. They only give you results for people who don’t have a private profile. If they have a private profile, you won’t get their data. 2. If you have, for example, 6 Michael Jones’ in your system, they will give you 6 possible ID’s….and again, only the ID’s of people that don’t have private profiles. So there’s a chance that none of the 6 ID’s they give you are the correct Michael Jones. 3. The data they give you is going to be a couple months old right away since it takes them time to do their matching after you submit your information to them. 4. You will need to note the difference between Primary and Current to use that in analyzing what you currently have on file for the alumni. 5. Lastly, if you use LiveAlumni for their Hello Contact data, be aware that the business address they return is for the company headquarters and the business email they return, if not provided on the alumni’s profile, will be a guess based on the format for that company’s email addresses. I hope this helps. As with any service, it can never be perfect. Regards, Jessica Baker | Assistant Director of Data Quality and Strategy The University of Texas at Austin | TEXAS Development LCH 100 (F1000) | Austin, TX 78712 512-232-1729 | jbaker@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:jbaker@austin.utexas.edu> giving.utexas.edu [id:CA9C62C8-3A16-4EAD-B852-92D56B55BB22] Hook ‘em Horns! From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of Paula J Rushford Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 9:04 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information We are currently contracting with LiveAlumni. Has anyone used them? Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image004.jpg@01D5649A.3E7D06E0] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:01 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Have you checked into HEPData and their suite of EmployerFind services? John John H. Taylor Principal John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:38 AM Geri Colangelo <Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu<mailto:Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu>> wrote: Good morning, I’m wondering what other educational institutions are doing to find employment information on their alumni. We no longer do an alumni directory book since everything is now on our online alumni directory. However, this doesn’t seem to be yielding the results we were expecting/hoping for. Are there recommended pay-sites that others have found successful in obtaining business information on their alumni constituents. I’d love to get responses from anyone who has encountered this challenge and to hear what sources are available to help fill the gaps in collecting this type of data. Many thanks! Geri Geri Colangelo Sr. Data Manager, Development Office New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115 617-585-1166 www.necmusic.edu<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.necmusic.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPaulaRushford%40FERRIS.EDU%7C4dc4f024d8fd42e1079d08d732d2c0aa%7C64b0362e85c04e95a4ce5651d96cb739%7C1%7C0%7C637033753071985078&sdata=ZA9AWhoikxQlivo9pJRbiEWG%2Bnfd4jfXM%2FNKaoGDYT0%3D&reserved=0> **Notice** This message is from a sender outside of the Ferris Office 365 mail system. Use caution when clicking links or opening attachments. For assistance determining if this email is safe, please contact the ITSC. ________________________________ This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this matters.<https://ut.service-now.com/sp?id=kb_article&number=KB0011401>


  • 3.  Re: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information

    Posted 09-06-2019 02:09 PM
    This additional info is really helpful – thank you! For those of you who use AlumniSync, or EmployerFind, would you be willing to share any of the pros/cons of the sites you work with. We use AlumniFinder for address search and have found the same issue with private profiles. Information on individuals with a Private Profile will not be provided. Thank you! Geri Geri Colangelo Sr. Data Manager, Development Office New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115 617-585-1166 www.necmusic.edu<http://www.necmusic.edu/> From: Advancement Services Discussion List [mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG] On Behalf Of Baker, Jessica Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 11:03 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Paula et al, We’ve used them and been mildly happy. There are things to note though: 1. They only give you results for people who don’t have a private profile. If they have a private profile, you won’t get their data. 2. If you have, for example, 6 Michael Jones’ in your system, they will give you 6 possible ID’s….and again, only the ID’s of people that don’t have private profiles. So there’s a chance that none of the 6 ID’s they give you are the correct Michael Jones. 3. The data they give you is going to be a couple months old right away since it takes them time to do their matching after you submit your information to them. 4. You will need to note the difference between Primary and Current to use that in analyzing what you currently have on file for the alumni. 5. Lastly, if you use LiveAlumni for their Hello Contact data, be aware that the business address they return is for the company headquarters and the business email they return, if not provided on the alumni’s profile, will be a guess based on the format for that company’s email addresses. I hope this helps. As with any service, it can never be perfect. Regards, Jessica Baker | Assistant Director of Data Quality and Strategy The University of Texas at Austin | TEXAS Development LCH 100 (F1000) | Austin, TX 78712 512-232-1729 | jbaker@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:jbaker@austin.utexas.edu> giving.utexas.edu [id:CA9C62C8-3A16-4EAD-B852-92D56B55BB22] Hook ‘em Horns! From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of Paula J Rushford Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 9:04 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information We are currently contracting with LiveAlumni. Has anyone used them? Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image003.jpg@01D564A3.87827BA0] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:01 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Have you checked into HEPData and their suite of EmployerFind services? John John H. Taylor Principal John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:38 AM Geri Colangelo <Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu<mailto:Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu>> wrote: Good morning, I’m wondering what other educational institutions are doing to find employment information on their alumni. We no longer do an alumni directory book since everything is now on our online alumni directory. However, this doesn’t seem to be yielding the results we were expecting/hoping for. Are there recommended pay-sites that others have found successful in obtaining business information on their alumni constituents. I’d love to get responses from anyone who has encountered this challenge and to hear what sources are available to help fill the gaps in collecting this type of data. Many thanks! Geri Geri Colangelo Sr. Data Manager, Development Office New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115 617-585-1166 www.necmusic.edu<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.necmusic.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPaulaRushford%40FERRIS.EDU%7C4dc4f024d8fd42e1079d08d732d2c0aa%7C64b0362e85c04e95a4ce5651d96cb739%7C1%7C0%7C637033753071985078&sdata=ZA9AWhoikxQlivo9pJRbiEWG%2Bnfd4jfXM%2FNKaoGDYT0%3D&reserved=0> **Notice** This message is from a sender outside of the Ferris Office 365 mail system. Use caution when clicking links or opening attachments. For assistance determining if this email is safe, please contact the ITSC. ________________________________ This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this matters.<https://ut.service-now.com/sp?id=kb_article&number=KB0011401>


  • 4.  Re: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information

    Posted 09-06-2019 02:42 PM
    Great Info! Thank you for the response Jessica. Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image001.jpg@01D564A8.20571940] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of Baker, Jessica Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 11:03 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Paula et al, We’ve used them and been mildly happy. There are things to note though: 1. They only give you results for people who don’t have a private profile. If they have a private profile, you won’t get their data. 2. If you have, for example, 6 Michael Jones’ in your system, they will give you 6 possible ID’s….and again, only the ID’s of people that don’t have private profiles. So there’s a chance that none of the 6 ID’s they give you are the correct Michael Jones. 3. The data they give you is going to be a couple months old right away since it takes them time to do their matching after you submit your information to them. 4. You will need to note the difference between Primary and Current to use that in analyzing what you currently have on file for the alumni. 5. Lastly, if you use LiveAlumni for their Hello Contact data, be aware that the business address they return is for the company headquarters and the business email they return, if not provided on the alumni’s profile, will be a guess based on the format for that company’s email addresses. I hope this helps. As with any service, it can never be perfect. Regards, Jessica Baker | Assistant Director of Data Quality and Strategy The University of Texas at Austin | TEXAS Development LCH 100 (F1000) | Austin, TX 78712 512-232-1729 | jbaker@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:jbaker@austin.utexas.edu> giving.utexas.edu [id:CA9C62C8-3A16-4EAD-B852-92D56B55BB22] Hook ‘em Horns! From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of Paula J Rushford Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 9:04 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information We are currently contracting with LiveAlumni. Has anyone used them? Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image004.jpg@01D564A8.20571940] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:01 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Have you checked into HEPData and their suite of EmployerFind services? John John H. Taylor Principal John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:38 AM Geri Colangelo <Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu<mailto:Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu>> wrote: Good morning, I’m wondering what other educational institutions are doing to find employment information on their alumni. We no longer do an alumni directory book since everything is now on our online alumni directory. However, this doesn’t seem to be yielding the results we were expecting/hoping for. Are there recommended pay-sites that others have found successful in obtaining business information on their alumni constituents. I’d love to get responses from anyone who has encountered this challenge and to hear what sources are available to help fill the gaps in collecting this type of data. Many thanks! Geri Geri Colangelo Sr. Data Manager, Development Office New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115 617-585-1166 www.necmusic.edu<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.necmusic.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPaulaRushford%40FERRIS.EDU%7C1ce69c0f2a3e47fc3d7b08d732db52b3%7C64b0362e85c04e95a4ce5651d96cb739%7C1%7C0%7C637033789877170629&sdata=9AQmxq8b5Fh1jfuo%2F85w6nvFP9ASvriPqTlUcPDKNhw%3D&reserved=0> **Notice** This message is from a sender outside of the Ferris Office 365 mail system. Use caution when clicking links or opening attachments. For assistance determining if this email is safe, please contact the ITSC. ________________________________ This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this matters.<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fut.service-now.com%2Fsp%3Fid%3Dkb_article%26number%3DKB0011401&data=02%7C01%7CPaulaRushford%40FERRIS.EDU%7C1ce69c0f2a3e47fc3d7b08d732db52b3%7C64b0362e85c04e95a4ce5651d96cb739%7C1%7C0%7C637033789877170629&sdata=CDNyrrq%2FCHLxYTZ6jBaTeiJY0%2FCYAc%2B5EsLxeGcT3yI%3D&reserved=0>


  • 5.  Re: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information

    Posted 09-06-2019 04:20 PM
    In the past five years we have increased our employer data percentages from 15,000 alumni employment records to nearly 85,000 records. I echo John's recommendation of HEP data services. They have been the most cost-effective and accurate for us. And as a bonus they come with matching gift policy info ?? We have also used AlumniSync and LiveAlumni with some success. The benefits of those vendors are if you provide them a list of org records from your database they will append matches to that list so you can load the results without having to do a lot of manual work. The down side of LiveAlumni for us and LinkedIn is that due to us being part of the Maryland system and having our name start with University of Maryland, we got a lot of results for alumni that aren't actually ours, but other institutions in our system. Additionally, we have a high percentage of former students due to being a global non-traditional online institution, and if a student listed us on their education in LinkedIn even if they never graduated, those results would pull in our employer append. We are looking into the Navigator from LinkedIn and would be interested to know if the same challenges we had from LiveAlumni are presented there also. We present our alumni with opportunities and encouragement to update their employer information at every opportunity. We put it in our newsletter and link it to our online portal so they can update it with one click, we always include it on our event registrations, and donation giving site (not mandatory of course, but optional). And we have resources in-house dedicated to researching and entering employer data for our alumni on a regular basis via LinkedIn and other online resources. Hope that helps, Rebecca Boughamer Assistant Vice President, Advancement Services University of Maryland Global Campus Department of Institutional Advancement Phone: 301-985-7561 E-mail: rebecca.boughamer@umuc.edu Admin - 2104 US [cid:cdae9b37-0128-4372-a4cd-54d223bdc5b7]<http://www.umuc.edu> www.umuc.edu<http://www.umuc.edu/> | impact.umuc.edu<http://impact.umuc.edu/> | alumni.umuc.edu<http://alumni.umuc.edu/> Advancement Services Intake Form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1XA9xQcL79Fjm6r4WvzUcXC2CXmEdmemX_GC2U6h7L38/edit> IA Data Request Form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WviSP6bl-Qptssg_PRzqBkTRQZSqdm8mSir568AJFFM/edit> | IA Research Request Form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iGnjG4_rqtQyw4TB0ytI9Gz3MarufjPGbMyVp31Hihk/edit> ________________________________ From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> on behalf of Paula J Rushford <PaulaRushford@FERRIS.EDU> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 11:42 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Great Info! Thank you for the response Jessica. Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image001.jpg@01D564A8.20571940] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of Baker, Jessica Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 11:03 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Paula et al, We’ve used them and been mildly happy. There are things to note though: 1. They only give you results for people who don’t have a private profile. If they have a private profile, you won’t get their data. 2. If you have, for example, 6 Michael Jones’ in your system, they will give you 6 possible ID’s….and again, only the ID’s of people that don’t have private profiles. So there’s a chance that none of the 6 ID’s they give you are the correct Michael Jones. 3. The data they give you is going to be a couple months old right away since it takes them time to do their matching after you submit your information to them. 4. You will need to note the difference between Primary and Current to use that in analyzing what you currently have on file for the alumni. 5. Lastly, if you use LiveAlumni for their Hello Contact data, be aware that the business address they return is for the company headquarters and the business email they return, if not provided on the alumni’s profile, will be a guess based on the format for that company’s email addresses. I hope this helps. As with any service, it can never be perfect. Regards, Jessica Baker | Assistant Director of Data Quality and Strategy The University of Texas at Austin | TEXAS Development LCH 100 (F1000) | Austin, TX 78712 512-232-1729 | jbaker@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:jbaker@austin.utexas.edu> giving.utexas.edu [id:CA9C62C8-3A16-4EAD-B852-92D56B55BB22] Hook ‘em Horns! From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of Paula J Rushford Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 9:04 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information We are currently contracting with LiveAlumni. Has anyone used them? Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image004.jpg@01D564A8.20571940] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:01 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Have you checked into HEPData and their suite of EmployerFind services? John John H. Taylor Principal John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:38 AM Geri Colangelo <Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu<mailto:Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu>> wrote: Good morning, I’m wondering what other educational institutions are doing to find employment information on their alumni. We no longer do an alumni directory book since everything is now on our online alumni directory. However, this doesn’t seem to be yielding the results we were expecting/hoping for. Are there recommended pay-sites that others have found successful in obtaining business information on their alumni constituents. I’d love to get responses from anyone who has encountered this challenge and to hear what sources are available to help fill the gaps in collecting this type of data. Many thanks! Geri Geri Colangelo Sr. Data Manager, Development Office New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115 617-585-1166 www.necmusic.edu<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.necmusic.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPaulaRushford%40FERRIS.EDU%7C1ce69c0f2a3e47fc3d7b08d732db52b3%7C64b0362e85c04e95a4ce5651d96cb739%7C1%7C0%7C637033789877170629&sdata=9AQmxq8b5Fh1jfuo%2F85w6nvFP9ASvriPqTlUcPDKNhw%3D&reserved=0> **Notice** This message is from a sender outside of the Ferris Office 365 mail system. Use caution when clicking links or opening attachments. For assistance determining if this email is safe, please contact the ITSC. ________________________________ This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this matters.<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fut.service-now.com%2Fsp%3Fid%3Dkb_article%26number%3DKB0011401&data=02%7C01%7CPaulaRushford%40FERRIS.EDU%7C1ce69c0f2a3e47fc3d7b08d732db52b3%7C64b0362e85c04e95a4ce5651d96cb739%7C1%7C0%7C637033789877170629&sdata=CDNyrrq%2FCHLxYTZ6jBaTeiJY0%2FCYAc%2B5EsLxeGcT3yI%3D&reserved=0>


  • 6.  Re: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information

    Posted 09-06-2019 05:43 PM
    Thank you, Rebecca. I appreciate the viewpoint of someone who has worked with a few of the options that we may be considering. I’m also starting to think in terms of ways to incentivize alumni to provide their employment information – maybe get them to supply this info on a survey to win something. Thanks again to everyone for the helpful feedback! Geri Geri Colangelo Sr. Data Manager, Development Office New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02115 617-585-1166 www.necmusic.edu<http://www.necmusic.edu/> From: Advancement Services Discussion List [mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG] On Behalf Of Rebecca Boughamer Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 1:20 PM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information In the past five years we have increased our employer data percentages from 15,000 alumni employment records to nearly 85,000 records. I echo John's recommendation of HEP data services. They have been the most cost-effective and accurate for us. And as a bonus they come with matching gift policy info 🙂 We have also used AlumniSync and LiveAlumni with some success. The benefits of those vendors are if you provide them a list of org records from your database they will append matches to that list so you can load the results without having to do a lot of manual work. The down side of LiveAlumni for us and LinkedIn is that due to us being part of the Maryland system and having our name start with University of Maryland, we got a lot of results for alumni that aren't actually ours, but other institutions in our system. Additionally, we have a high percentage of former students due to being a global non-traditional online institution, and if a student listed us on their education in LinkedIn even if they never graduated, those results would pull in our employer append. We are looking into the Navigator from LinkedIn and would be interested to know if the same challenges we had from LiveAlumni are presented there also. We present our alumni with opportunities and encouragement to update their employer information at every opportunity. We put it in our newsletter and link it to our online portal so they can update it with one click, we always include it on our event registrations, and donation giving site (not mandatory of course, but optional). And we have resources in-house dedicated to researching and entering employer data for our alumni on a regular basis via LinkedIn and other online resources. Hope that helps, Rebecca Boughamer Assistant Vice President, Advancement Services University of Maryland Global Campus Department of Institutional Advancement Phone: 301-985-7561 E-mail: rebecca.boughamer@umuc.edu<mailto:rebecca.boughamer@umuc.edu> Admin - 2104 US [cid:image002.png@01D564C1.6414D410]<http://www.umuc.edu> www.umuc.edu<http://www.umuc.edu/> | impact.umuc.edu<http://impact.umuc.edu/> | alumni.umuc.edu<http://alumni.umuc.edu/> Advancement Services Intake Form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1XA9xQcL79Fjm6r4WvzUcXC2CXmEdmemX_GC2U6h7L38/edit> IA Data Request Form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WviSP6bl-Qptssg_PRzqBkTRQZSqdm8mSir568AJFFM/edit> | IA Research Request Form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iGnjG4_rqtQyw4TB0ytI9Gz3MarufjPGbMyVp31Hihk/edit> ________________________________ From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> on behalf of Paula J Rushford <PaulaRushford@FERRIS.EDU<mailto:PaulaRushford@FERRIS.EDU>> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 11:42 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Great Info! Thank you for the response Jessica. Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image006.jpg@01D564C1.6414D410] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of Baker, Jessica Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 11:03 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Paula et al, We’ve used them and been mildly happy. There are things to note though: 1. They only give you results for people who don’t have a private profile. If they have a private profile, you won’t get their data. 2. If you have, for example, 6 Michael Jones’ in your system, they will give you 6 possible ID’s….and again, only the ID’s of people that don’t have private profiles. So there’s a chance that none of the 6 ID’s they give you are the correct Michael Jones. 3. The data they give you is going to be a couple months old right away since it takes them time to do their matching after you submit your information to them. 4. You will need to note the difference between Primary and Current to use that in analyzing what you currently have on file for the alumni. 5. Lastly, if you use LiveAlumni for their Hello Contact data, be aware that the business address they return is for the company headquarters and the business email they return, if not provided on the alumni’s profile, will be a guess based on the format for that company’s email addresses. I hope this helps. As with any service, it can never be perfect. Regards, Jessica Baker | Assistant Director of Data Quality and Strategy The University of Texas at Austin | TEXAS Development LCH 100 (F1000) | Austin, TX 78712 512-232-1729 | jbaker@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:jbaker@austin.utexas.edu> giving.utexas.edu [id:CA9C62C8-3A16-4EAD-B852-92D56B55BB22] Hook ‘em Horns! From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of Paula J Rushford Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 9:04 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information We are currently contracting with LiveAlumni. Has anyone used them? Paula Jean Rushford Director of Advancement Services (231) 591-3849 [cid:image009.jpg@01D564C1.6414D410] From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:01 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: *EXT* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Sources for finding Employment Information Have you checked into HEPData and their suite of EmployerFind services? John John H. Taylor Principal John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:38 AM Geri Colangelo <Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu<mailto:Geri.Colangelo@necmusic.edu>> wrote: Good morning, I’m wondering what other educational institutions are doing to find employment information on their alumni. We no longer do an alumni directory book since everything is now on our online alumni directory. However, this doesn’t seem to be yielding the results we were expecting/hoping for. Are there recommended pay-sites that others have found successful in obtaining business information on their alumni constituents. I’d love to get responses from anyone who has encountered this challenge and to hear what sources are available to help fill the gaps in collecting this type of data. Many thanks! 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