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  • 1.  Socks!

    Posted 03-26-2019 12:07 PM
    Yes, socks. If we do a give away of socks for those that give to us via a community foundation giving day (so the sock wearer would be soft credit)... is the sock still a benefit received? Siobhan Lidington Director of Annual and Individual Giving Albertus Magnus College 700 Prospect St New Haven, CT 06511 sllidington@albertus.edu w. (203)773-8519


  • 2.  Re: Socks!

    Posted 03-26-2019 12:13 PM
    Benefits cannot be given to anyone period if they give through a DAF (impermissible benefit) or a private foundation (self-dealing). John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:07 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu> wrote: > Yes, socks. If we do a give away of socks for those that give to us via a > community foundation giving day (so the sock wearer would be soft > credit)... is the sock still a benefit received? > > > Siobhan Lidington > Director of Annual and Individual Giving > Albertus Magnus College > 700 Prospect St > New Haven, CT 06511 > sllidington@albertus.edu > w. (203)773-8519 >


  • 3.  Re: Socks!

    Posted 03-26-2019 12:36 PM
    Got it. So by giving to the community foundation, they are disqualified from receiving a benefit. Thank you. Siobhan Lidington Director of Annual and Individual Giving Albertus Magnus College 700 Prospect St New Haven, CT 06511 sllidington@albertus.edu w. (203)773-8519 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:13 PM John Taylor <johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> wrote: > Benefits cannot be given to anyone period if they give through a DAF > (impermissible benefit) or a private foundation (self-dealing). > > John > > John H. Taylor > Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting > 2604 Sevier St. > Durham, NC 27705 > johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com > 919.816.5903 (cell/text) > > Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:07 PM Lidington, Siobhan < > sllidington@albertus.edu> wrote: > >> Yes, socks. If we do a give away of socks for those that give to us via a >> community foundation giving day (so the sock wearer would be soft >> credit)... is the sock still a benefit received? >> >> >> Siobhan Lidington >> Director of Annual and Individual Giving >> Albertus Magnus College >> 700 Prospect St >> New Haven, CT 06511 >> sllidington@albertus.edu >> w. (203)773-8519 >> >


  • 4.  Re: Socks!

    Posted 03-26-2019 01:06 PM
    Well, I did not specifically say "community foundation." I said "private foundation" which is akin to a "family foundation." What I am unclear on is why are you having donors give "via" a community foundation and not directly to you? What I do not know are laws regarding community foundations and if they are different from private foundations. What I do know is if the money is being given to the foundation and then the foundation is voluntarily making a gift to you, you better ask the CFO/Counsel of the community foundation whether *their* gifts can result in benefits being given to private individuals. If they agree that it is okay, then *their* contribution to you must be reduced by the FMV of the retail value of all socks you provide as a result. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:36 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu> wrote: > Got it. So by giving to the community foundation, they are disqualified > from receiving a benefit. Thank you. > > > Siobhan Lidington > Director of Annual and Individual Giving > Albertus Magnus College > 700 Prospect St > New Haven, CT 06511 > sllidington@albertus.edu > w. (203)773-8519 > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:13 PM John Taylor < > johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Benefits cannot be given to anyone period if they give through a DAF >> (impermissible benefit) or a private foundation (self-dealing). >> >> John >> >> John H. Taylor >> Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting >> 2604 Sevier St. >> Durham, NC 27705 >> johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com >> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) >> >> Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:07 PM Lidington, Siobhan < >> sllidington@albertus.edu> wrote: >> >>> Yes, socks. If we do a give away of socks for those that give to us via >>> a community foundation giving day (so the sock wearer would be soft >>> credit)... is the sock still a benefit received? >>> >>> >>> Siobhan Lidington >>> Director of Annual and Individual Giving >>> Albertus Magnus College >>> 700 Prospect St >>> New Haven, CT 06511 >>> sllidington@albertus.edu >>> w. (203)773-8519 >>> >>


  • 5.  Re: Socks!

    Posted 03-26-2019 05:13 PM
    I’m still stuck on the notion that the people who get the soft socks also get soft credit. Marianne Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:06 PM, John Taylor <johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com>> wrote: Well, I did not specifically say "community foundation." I said "private foundation" which is akin to a "family foundation." What I am unclear on is why are you having donors give "via" a community foundation and not directly to you? What I do not know are laws regarding community foundations and if they are different from private foundations. What I do know is if the money is being given to the foundation and then the foundation is voluntarily making a gift to you, you better ask the CFO/Counsel of the community foundation whether their gifts can result in benefits being given to private individuals. If they agree that it is okay, then their contribution to you must be reduced by the FMV of the retail value of all socks you provide as a result. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:36 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu>> wrote: Got it. So by giving to the community foundation, they are disqualified from receiving a benefit. Thank you. Siobhan Lidington Director of Annual and Individual Giving Albertus Magnus College 700 Prospect St New Haven, CT 06511 sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu> w. (203)773-8519 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:13 PM John Taylor <johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com>> wrote: Benefits cannot be given to anyone period if they give through a DAF (impermissible benefit) or a private foundation (self-dealing). John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:07 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu>> wrote: Yes, socks. If we do a give away of socks for those that give to us via a community foundation giving day (so the sock wearer would be soft credit)... is the sock still a benefit received? Siobhan Lidington Director of Annual and Individual Giving Albertus Magnus College 700 Prospect St New Haven, CT 06511 sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu> w. (203)773-8519


  • 6.  Re: Socks!

    Posted 03-26-2019 05:18 PM
    I think she meant “sock credit”. -jsg From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of Marianne Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:13 PM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Socks! I’m still stuck on the notion that the people who get the soft socks also get soft credit. Marianne Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:06 PM, John Taylor <johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com>> wrote: Well, I did not specifically say "community foundation." I said "private foundation" which is akin to a "family foundation." What I am unclear on is why are you having donors give "via" a community foundation and not directly to you? What I do not know are laws regarding community foundations and if they are different from private foundations. What I do know is if the money is being given to the foundation and then the foundation is voluntarily making a gift to you, you better ask the CFO/Counsel of the community foundation whether their gifts can result in benefits being given to private individuals. If they agree that it is okay, then their contribution to you must be reduced by the FMV of the retail value of all socks you provide as a result. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:36 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu>> wrote: Got it. So by giving to the community foundation, they are disqualified from receiving a benefit. Thank you. Siobhan Lidington Director of Annual and Individual Giving Albertus Magnus College 700 Prospect St New Haven, CT 06511 sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu> w. (203)773-8519 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:13 PM John Taylor <johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com>> wrote: Benefits cannot be given to anyone period if they give through a DAF (impermissible benefit) or a private foundation (self-dealing). John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:07 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu>> wrote: Yes, socks. If we do a give away of socks for those that give to us via a community foundation giving day (so the sock wearer would be soft credit)... is the sock still a benefit received? Siobhan Lidington Director of Annual and Individual Giving Albertus Magnus College 700 Prospect St New Haven, CT 06511 sllidington@albertus.edu<mailto:sllidington@albertus.edu> w. (203)773-8519 ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments).


  • 7.  Re: Socks!

    Posted 03-27-2019 05:25 PM
    A community foundation has already given a tax receipt to a donor, and no you cannot give anything of value to their donor. Having said that, do the socks have your logo on them and if so, is it an inconsequential value ?? Sent from my iPhone Please excuse brevity and misspelling. Donna Rex donnafund@gmail.com > On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Greenbaum, Josh S <JGREE2@emory.edu> wrote: > > I think she meant “sock credit”. > > -jsg > > From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of Marianne Pelletier > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:13 PM > To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG > Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Socks! > > I’m still stuck on the notion that the people who get the soft socks also get soft credit. > > Marianne > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:06 PM, John Taylor <johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, I did not specifically say "community foundation." I said "private foundation" which is akin to a "family foundation." > > What I am unclear on is why are you having donors give "via" a community foundation and not directly to you? > > What I do not know are laws regarding community foundations and if they are different from private foundations. What I do know is if the money is being given to the foundation and then the foundation is voluntarily making a gift to you, you better ask the CFO/Counsel of the community foundation whether their gifts can result in benefits being given to private individuals. If they agree that it is okay, then their contribution to you must be reduced by the FMV of the retail value of all socks you provide as a result. > > John > > John H. Taylor > Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting > 2604 Sevier St. > Durham, NC 27705 > johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com > 919.816.5903 (cell/text) > > Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:36 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu> wrote: > Got it. So by giving to the community foundation, they are disqualified from receiving a benefit. Thank you. > > > Siobhan Lidington > Director of Annual and Individual Giving > Albertus Magnus College > 700 Prospect St > New Haven, CT 06511 > sllidington@albertus.edu > w. (203)773-8519 > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:13 PM John Taylor <johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> wrote: > Benefits cannot be given to anyone period if they give through a DAF (impermissible benefit) or a private foundation (self-dealing). > > John > > John H. Taylor > Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting > 2604 Sevier St. > Durham, NC 27705 > johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com > 919.816.5903 (cell/text) > > Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:07 PM Lidington, Siobhan <sllidington@albertus.edu> wrote: > Yes, socks. If we do a give away of socks for those that give to us via a community foundation giving day (so the sock wearer would be soft credit)... is the sock still a benefit received? > > > Siobhan Lidington > Director of Annual and Individual Giving > Albertus Magnus College > 700 Prospect St > New Haven, CT 06511 > sllidington@albertus.edu > w. (203)773-8519 > > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly > prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please contact > the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the > original message (including attachments).


  • 8.  Socks!

    Posted 04-02-2019 11:50 AM
    Looking at an appeal or giving day(s) where socks are a giveaway. Anyone who has incorporated socks - can you share your marketing around them? Looking for ideas... Siobhan Lidington Director of Annual and Individual Giving Albertus Magnus College 700 Prospect St New Haven, CT 06511 sllidington@albertus.edu w. (203)773-8519