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  • 1.  Payments on a pledge through Donor Advised Fund

    Posted 01-23-2019 07:58 AM
    I will not speak to the best approach using RE. However, I need to point out that there is a third option which I am seeing growing in "popularity" as demanded by in-house counsel. And that is the complete revocation (deletion) of the original pledge and subsequent recording of a new pledge for only the amount the donor agrees to personally pay. I personally do not like this third option. However, it seems that more in-house counsels I come across are getting a bit jittery over what we have tended to follow in the past. So I simply suggest that whatever approach you take receives the blessing of your attorney. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 8:54 AM Hornbeck, Cynthia <CHornbeck1@twu.edu> wrote: > I have a question on the pledge payments from a Donor Advised Fund. I > know we do not link them to the pledge as a payment so we have to reduce > the pledge. The question I have is how is everyone reducing the pledge. > > > > We use RE and we also have FE so everything has to be run through the GL. > There are two ways I have found to reduce the pledge I just want to make > sure whichever way we decided to go it will not cause a problem with the > CASE and VSE reporting (which I have not had the pleasure of doing yet so I > am not sure what all is reported). > > > > Way number 1 – I can write off the installment that was paid through the > donor advised fund which will leave the beginning balance of the pledge the > same, but I come from a receivables background and when I see “write off” > to me that says Bad Debit the money will never come in, but in this case it > has come in we just could not apply it. Do either of the CASE or VSE > reports take into account “write offs”? > > > > Way number 2 – I can change the amount of the pledge (reduce it by the > amount of the installment) and run this through the GL to reduce the > expected amount in FE so everything will match. The problem I have with > this is if we need to report on the total amount of our pledges and then > how much was received we would not have the original amount of the pledge > in the system so the report would be off ( and how do you explain to the > donor when they request a statement showing all their pledges and they see > a pledge of $150,000 where the paperwork they signed said the pledge was > $200,000). > > > > We are in the process of writing our procedures manual and I just want to > make sure we can make the best informed decision and not find out we have > to change it down the road to make the reporting correct. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > Cynthia Hornbeck > > University Advancement > > 940-898-3894 > > CHornbeck1@twu.edu > > [image: > https://www.blackbaud.com/files/training/jobaids/CSOD/Badges/certification_b/PRO_Orange.png] > > > > >


  • 2.  Payments on a pledge through Donor Advised Fund

    Posted 01-23-2019 12:54 PM
    I have a question on the pledge payments from a Donor Advised Fund. I know we do not link them to the pledge as a payment so we have to reduce the pledge. The question I have is how is everyone reducing the pledge. We use RE and we also have FE so everything has to be run through the GL. There are two ways I have found to reduce the pledge I just want to make sure whichever way we decided to go it will not cause a problem with the CASE and VSE reporting (which I have not had the pleasure of doing yet so I am not sure what all is reported). Way number 1 - I can write off the installment that was paid through the donor advised fund which will leave the beginning balance of the pledge the same, but I come from a receivables background and when I see "write off" to me that says Bad Debit the money will never come in, but in this case it has come in we just could not apply it. Do either of the CASE or VSE reports take into account "write offs"? Way number 2 - I can change the amount of the pledge (reduce it by the amount of the installment) and run this through the GL to reduce the expected amount in FE so everything will match. The problem I have with this is if we need to report on the total amount of our pledges and then how much was received we would not have the original amount of the pledge in the system so the report would be off ( and how do you explain to the donor when they request a statement showing all their pledges and they see a pledge of $150,000 where the paperwork they signed said the pledge was $200,000). We are in the process of writing our procedures manual and I just want to make sure we can make the best informed decision and not find out we have to change it down the road to make the reporting correct. Thank you, Cynthia Hornbeck [cid:image002.png@01D4B2EF.579D4700] University Advancement 940-898-3894 CHornbeck1@twu.edu<mailto:CHornbeck1@twu.edu> [https://www.blackbaud.com/files/training/jobaids/CSOD/Badges/certification_b/PRO_Orange.png]