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  • 1.  Golf course membership program

    Posted 01-14-2019 01:44 PM
    If these are the required fees to join the golf course then there isn't any gift! It's the cost of joining! Or am I missing something? John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:41 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu> wrote: > Good afternoon, > > > > Our golf course is creating a membership program with several levels that > will include varying degrees of the benefits below. Memberships will start > at $250. Seeing as how this is greater than the $75 max mentioned in 526, I > assume we should handle as QPQ. Does anyone have experience/recommendations > on how to value frequently-available benefits? > > > > - Complimentary cart fees for a year > - “Friends” level pricing on Pro Shop items (10% - 20% discount) > - “Friends” level range fees for a year (10% - 20% discount) > > > > These benefits will also be offered but easier to value. > > - (6) Free 45-minute lessons > - Commemorative members’ bag tag > - Invitation to play in “Friends of the Golf Course” tournament > > > > It will be simple to accommodate a donor who chooses to give up all of the > benefits given in exchange for their payment, but I am concerned about > customizing memberships based on the perks desired by a specific member. > That will lead to confused gift processors and frustrated donors. > > > > Thank you, > Jason > > > > *Jason R. Burdette* > Gift Accounting > > UGA Foundation | 394 S Milledge Ave | Athens, GA 30602 > 706-542-8160 <7065428160> | burdette@uga.edu | dar.uga.edu > > [image: University of Georgia] > > >


  • 2.  Re: Golf course membership program

    Posted 01-14-2019 02:20 PM
    Gotcha. So when I contacted the IRS on something similar a number of years ago they stated simply that you need to "guess" as to the FMV of the *estimated* average value per member. Based on what you have shared with us, I have a hard time seeing any tax-deductible portion at the $250 level. As a golfer, those 6 free lesson will easily exceed that amount. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:09 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu> wrote: > I imagined this is more like a sponsorship. These members will be “Friends > of the Golf Course” who will receive name/logo recognition in addition to > the benefits below. Anyone could pay to play without being a Friend. > > > > *From:* Advancement Services Discussion List < > FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> *On Behalf Of *John Taylor > *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 2:44 PM > *To:* FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program > > > > If these are the required fees to join the golf course then there isn't > any gift! It's the cost of joining! > > > > Or am I missing something? > > > > John > > > > John H. Taylor > > Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting > > 2604 Sevier St. > > Durham, NC 27705 > > johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com > > 919.816.5903 (cell/text) > > > > Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:41 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu> wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > > Our golf course is creating a membership program with several levels that > will include varying degrees of the benefits below. Memberships will start > at $250. Seeing as how this is greater than the $75 max mentioned in 526, I > assume we should handle as QPQ. Does anyone have experience/recommendations > on how to value frequently-available benefits? > > > > - Complimentary cart fees for a year > - “Friends” level pricing on Pro Shop items (10% - 20% discount) > - “Friends” level range fees for a year (10% - 20% discount) > > > > These benefits will also be offered but easier to value. > > - (6) Free 45-minute lessons > - Commemorative members’ bag tag > - Invitation to play in “Friends of the Golf Course” tournament > > > > It will be simple to accommodate a donor who chooses to give up all of the > benefits given in exchange for their payment, but I am concerned about > customizing memberships based on the perks desired by a specific member. > That will lead to confused gift processors and frustrated donors. > > > > Thank you, > Jason > > > > *Jason R. Burdette* > Gift Accounting > > UGA Foundation | 394 S Milledge Ave | Athens, GA 30602 > 706-542-8160 <7065428160> | burdette@uga.edu | dar.uga.edu > > [image: University of Georgia] > > > >


  • 3.  Re: Golf course membership program

    Posted 01-14-2019 03:21 PM
    That is correct. Above $75 you *must* make a "good faith estimate" as to the value of benefits given - whether or not they are exercised. Which is why the IRS told me to calaculate the total value (using history if possible) and divide that by the number of members. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:11 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu> wrote: > Right. The $250 level isn’t receiving the 6 free lessons. That level will > only receive the discount in the Pro Shop and range fees. > > > > Just confirming, though, if a membership is over $75, the exclusions > provided in 526 do not apply, right? > > > > *From:* Advancement Services Discussion List < > FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> *On Behalf Of *John Taylor > *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 3:20 PM > *To:* FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program > > > > Gotcha. > > > > So when I contacted the IRS on something similar a number of years ago > they stated simply that you need to "guess" as to the FMV of the > *estimated* average value per member. > > > > Based on what you have shared with us, I have a hard time seeing any > tax-deductible portion at the $250 level. As a golfer, those 6 free lesson > will easily exceed that amount. > > > > John > > > > John H. Taylor > > Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting > > 2604 Sevier St. > > Durham, NC 27705 > > johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com > > 919.816.5903 (cell/text) > > > > Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:09 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu> wrote: > > I imagined this is more like a sponsorship. These members will be “Friends > of the Golf Course” who will receive name/logo recognition in addition to > the benefits below. Anyone could pay to play without being a Friend. > > > > *From:* Advancement Services Discussion List < > FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> *On Behalf Of *John Taylor > *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 2:44 PM > *To:* FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program > > > > If these are the required fees to join the golf course then there isn't > any gift! It's the cost of joining! > > > > Or am I missing something? > > > > John > > > > John H. Taylor > > Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting > > 2604 Sevier St. > > Durham, NC 27705 > > johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com > > 919.816.5903 (cell/text) > > > > Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:41 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu> wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > > Our golf course is creating a membership program with several levels that > will include varying degrees of the benefits below. Memberships will start > at $250. Seeing as how this is greater than the $75 max mentioned in 526, I > assume we should handle as QPQ. Does anyone have experience/recommendations > on how to value frequently-available benefits? > > > > - Complimentary cart fees for a year > - “Friends” level pricing on Pro Shop items (10% - 20% discount) > - “Friends” level range fees for a year (10% - 20% discount) > > > > These benefits will also be offered but easier to value. > > - (6) Free 45-minute lessons > - Commemorative members’ bag tag > - Invitation to play in “Friends of the Golf Course” tournament > > > > It will be simple to accommodate a donor who chooses to give up all of the > benefits given in exchange for their payment, but I am concerned about > customizing memberships based on the perks desired by a specific member. > That will lead to confused gift processors and frustrated donors. > > > > Thank you, > Jason > > > > *Jason R. Burdette* > Gift Accounting > > UGA Foundation | 394 S Milledge Ave | Athens, GA 30602 > 706-542-8160 <7065428160> | burdette@uga.edu | dar.uga.edu > > [image: University of Georgia] > > > >


  • 4.  Golf course membership program

    Posted 01-14-2019 06:42 PM
    Good afternoon, Our golf course is creating a membership program with several levels that will include varying degrees of the benefits below. Memberships will start at $250. Seeing as how this is greater than the $75 max mentioned in 526, I assume we should handle as QPQ. Does anyone have experience/recommendations on how to value frequently-available benefits? * Complimentary cart fees for a year * "Friends" level pricing on Pro Shop items (10% - 20% discount) * "Friends" level range fees for a year (10% - 20% discount) These benefits will also be offered but easier to value. * (6) Free 45-minute lessons * Commemorative members' bag tag * Invitation to play in "Friends of the Golf Course" tournament It will be simple to accommodate a donor who chooses to give up all of the benefits given in exchange for their payment, but I am concerned about customizing memberships based on the perks desired by a specific member. That will lead to confused gift processors and frustrated donors. Thank you, Jason Jason R. Burdette Gift Accounting UGA Foundation | 394 S Milledge Ave | Athens, GA 30602 706-542-8160<tel:7065428160> | burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu> | dar.uga.edu<http://dar.uga.edu/> [University of Georgia]


  • 5.  Re: Golf course membership program

    Posted 01-14-2019 07:09 PM
    I imagined this is more like a sponsorship. These members will be “Friends of the Golf Course” who will receive name/logo recognition in addition to the benefits below. Anyone could pay to play without being a Friend. From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:44 PM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program If these are the required fees to join the golf course then there isn't any gift! It's the cost of joining! Or am I missing something? John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:41 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu>> wrote: Good afternoon, Our golf course is creating a membership program with several levels that will include varying degrees of the benefits below. Memberships will start at $250. Seeing as how this is greater than the $75 max mentioned in 526, I assume we should handle as QPQ. Does anyone have experience/recommendations on how to value frequently-available benefits? * Complimentary cart fees for a year * “Friends” level pricing on Pro Shop items (10% - 20% discount) * “Friends” level range fees for a year (10% - 20% discount) These benefits will also be offered but easier to value. * (6) Free 45-minute lessons * Commemorative members’ bag tag * Invitation to play in “Friends of the Golf Course” tournament It will be simple to accommodate a donor who chooses to give up all of the benefits given in exchange for their payment, but I am concerned about customizing memberships based on the perks desired by a specific member. That will lead to confused gift processors and frustrated donors. Thank you, Jason Jason R. Burdette Gift Accounting UGA Foundation | 394 S Milledge Ave | Athens, GA 30602 706-542-8160<tel:7065428160> | burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu> | dar.uga.edu<http://dar.uga.edu/> [University of Georgia]


  • 6.  Re: Golf course membership program

    Posted 01-14-2019 08:07 PM
    Hi John and Jason, We just went through this exercise with our Astronomy Center which offers its members 10% discounts on gift shop and restaurant purposes. Although not exactly an “apples-to-apples” situation, we had a similar concern regarding how to quantify the value of the benefit to the donor when some donors may make many gift shop/restaurant purchases and others may not make any? We spoke with one of the partners of our professional accounting firm to get an answer. Essentially, she said there are two ways you can go about this. One is hard, the other is easy. The hard way is to try to have the membership office provide you with an average of how much benefit members are using (by reviewing their yearly purchases) and then use that. The easy way is to simply state the benefit in the form of the percentage (as promulgated by the center) on the tax receipt you provide to the members. She clarified that although the IRS stipulates here https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/charitable-contributions-written-acknowledgments that written acknowledgements (tax receipts) for charitable contributions should contain a, “Description and good faith estimate of the value of goods or services, if any, that organization provided in return for the contribution…”, she advised that the phrase “estimate of the value” need not be interpreted as a quantifiable amount in circumstances where it is impracticable to do so. Therefore, since our Astronomy Center offers a 10% discount on purchases at their gift shop and restaurant, it should satisfy due diligence on our part simply to state this on each tax receipt to the donor. The expectation being that the donor or their tax preparer then has enough information (assuming the member saves their gift shop/restaurant purchase receipts) by which to determine how much, if any, remaining amount from the membership cost would be eligible to deduct as a charitable contribution. Hope this helps, Eric Eric F. Valdescaro AVP, Advancement Services University of Hawaii Foundation From: Advancement Services Discussion List [mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG] On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 10:20 AM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program Gotcha. So when I contacted the IRS on something similar a number of years ago they stated simply that you need to "guess" as to the FMV of the estimated average value per member. Based on what you have shared with us, I have a hard time seeing any tax-deductible portion at the $250 level. As a golfer, those 6 free lesson will easily exceed that amount. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:09 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu>> wrote: I imagined this is more like a sponsorship. These members will be “Friends of the Golf Course” who will receive name/logo recognition in addition to the benefits below. Anyone could pay to play without being a Friend. From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:44 PM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program If these are the required fees to join the golf course then there isn't any gift! It's the cost of joining! Or am I missing something? John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:41 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu>> wrote: Good afternoon, Our golf course is creating a membership program with several levels that will include varying degrees of the benefits below. Memberships will start at $250. Seeing as how this is greater than the $75 max mentioned in 526, I assume we should handle as QPQ. Does anyone have experience/recommendations on how to value frequently-available benefits? * Complimentary cart fees for a year * “Friends” level pricing on Pro Shop items (10% - 20% discount) * “Friends” level range fees for a year (10% - 20% discount) These benefits will also be offered but easier to value. * (6) Free 45-minute lessons * Commemorative members’ bag tag * Invitation to play in “Friends of the Golf Course” tournament It will be simple to accommodate a donor who chooses to give up all of the benefits given in exchange for their payment, but I am concerned about customizing memberships based on the perks desired by a specific member. That will lead to confused gift processors and frustrated donors. Thank you, Jason Jason R. Burdette Gift Accounting UGA Foundation | 394 S Milledge Ave | Athens, GA 30602 706-542-8160<tel:7065428160> | burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu> | dar.uga.edu<http://dar.uga.edu/> [University of Georgia] This message (including any attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521. It is the property of the University of Hawaii Foundation. It may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, you must delete this message. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is prohibited.


  • 7.  Re: Golf course membership program

    Posted 01-14-2019 08:11 PM
    Right. The $250 level isn’t receiving the 6 free lessons. That level will only receive the discount in the Pro Shop and range fees. Just confirming, though, if a membership is over $75, the exclusions provided in 526 do not apply, right? From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 3:20 PM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program Gotcha. So when I contacted the IRS on something similar a number of years ago they stated simply that you need to "guess" as to the FMV of the estimated average value per member. Based on what you have shared with us, I have a hard time seeing any tax-deductible portion at the $250 level. As a golfer, those 6 free lesson will easily exceed that amount. John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:09 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu>> wrote: I imagined this is more like a sponsorship. These members will be “Friends of the Golf Course” who will receive name/logo recognition in addition to the benefits below. Anyone could pay to play without being a Friend. From: Advancement Services Discussion List <FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG>> On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 2:44 PM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG<mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG> Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Golf course membership program If these are the required fees to join the golf course then there isn't any gift! It's the cost of joining! Or am I missing something? John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:41 PM Jason Burdette <burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu>> wrote: Good afternoon, Our golf course is creating a membership program with several levels that will include varying degrees of the benefits below. Memberships will start at $250. Seeing as how this is greater than the $75 max mentioned in 526, I assume we should handle as QPQ. Does anyone have experience/recommendations on how to value frequently-available benefits? * Complimentary cart fees for a year * “Friends” level pricing on Pro Shop items (10% - 20% discount) * “Friends” level range fees for a year (10% - 20% discount) These benefits will also be offered but easier to value. * (6) Free 45-minute lessons * Commemorative members’ bag tag * Invitation to play in “Friends of the Golf Course” tournament It will be simple to accommodate a donor who chooses to give up all of the benefits given in exchange for their payment, but I am concerned about customizing memberships based on the perks desired by a specific member. That will lead to confused gift processors and frustrated donors. Thank you, Jason Jason R. Burdette Gift Accounting UGA Foundation | 394 S Milledge Ave | Athens, GA 30602 706-542-8160<tel:7065428160> | burdette@uga.edu<mailto:burdette@uga.edu> | dar.uga.edu<http://dar.uga.edu/> [University of Georgia]