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  • 1.  Fundraiser by 2nd party

    Posted 06-11-2019 05:38 PM
    Hi, I was asked about a Premier Jewelry Consultant having a jewelry show where a portion of the proceeds would come to our organization. That sounded fine, but now I am learning this jewelry consultant is having this on our property and there is a ticket price of $10 to attend and attendees will receive a bingo card. I don't want to squelch the enthusiasm of the consultant and employee who connected them but, HELP! What have others done in this situation? Thanks, Chris Patton Presbyterian Communities and Services Foundation


  • 2.  Re: Fundraiser by 2nd party

    Posted 06-11-2019 06:04 PM
    Well, the first thing I would do is check into the gaming laws for your state. There often are special provisions for charity activities - and even more specialer :-) provisions for BINGO. However, much beyond that, I'd have to look at the contract between you and the company to make heads or tales out of what is going on. That said, I do not see any charitable gifts being made by the participants. The $10 fee is the entrance fee and essentially a payment to earn the ability to gamble. Further, any purchases they make are just those - purchases. This is not the same as a true charity auction. Whether the consultant is making a gift of a portion of the proceeds is not known without seeing the contract. But, as with similar piano sale endeavors I have seen over the years in higher education, even that payment isn't a gift as it's essentially paid in exchange for your hosting the event, your promoting the event, and your providing access to your "customers." The vendor is basically paying you for your services. Read the fine print! John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:38 PM Chris Patton <cpatton@prescs.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I was asked about a Premier Jewelry Consultant having a jewelry show where > a portion of the proceeds would come to our organization. That sounded > fine, but now I am learning this jewelry consultant is having this on our > property and there is a ticket price of $10 to attend and attendees will > receive a bingo card. I don't want to squelch the enthusiasm of the > consultant and employee who connected them but, HELP! What have others > done in this situation? > > Thanks, > Chris Patton > Presbyterian Communities and Services Foundation >


  • 3.  Re: Fundraiser by 2nd party

    Posted 06-12-2019 01:51 PM
    Thank you so very much! This is most helpful. Chris Patton, bCRE Manager of Development Services Presbyterian Communities and Services Foundation In Support of: Faith Presbyterian Hospice Presbyterian Village North 12467 Merit Dr. Dallas, TX 75251 214-413-1577 – Main 214-413-1552 - Direct 214-316-4575 – Cell 214-413-1599 – Main Fax cpatton@prescs.org<mailto:cpatton@prescs.org> www.prescs.org<http://www.prescs.org/> [cid:image002.png@01D18433.B19BEEC0] Each Moment Matters P. S. You can make a simple, yet transformational gift to Presbyterian Communities and Services Foundation through your will or estate that costs you nothing during your lifetime. Learn more at https://prescs.planmygift.org<https://prescs.planmygift.org/> CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information in this email message is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return it to the address. From: Advancement Services Discussion List [mailto:FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG] On Behalf Of John Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 6:04 PM To: FUNDSVCS@LISTSERV.FUNDSVCS.ORG Subject: Re: [FUNDSVCS] Fundraiser by 2nd party Well, the first thing I would do is check into the gaming laws for your state. There often are special provisions for charity activities - and even more specialer :-) provisions for BINGO. However, much beyond that, I'd have to look at the contract between you and the company to make heads or tales out of what is going on. That said, I do not see any charitable gifts being made by the participants. The $10 fee is the entrance fee and essentially a payment to earn the ability to gamble. Further, any purchases they make are just those - purchases. This is not the same as a true charity auction. Whether the consultant is making a gift of a portion of the proceeds is not known without seeing the contract. But, as with similar piano sale endeavors I have seen over the years in higher education, even that payment isn't a gift as it's essentially paid in exchange for your hosting the event, your promoting the event, and your providing access to your "customers." The vendor is basically paying you for your services. Read the fine print! John John H. Taylor Principal, John H. Taylor Consulting 2604 Sevier St. Durham, NC 27705 johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com<mailto:johntaylorconsulting@gmail.com> 919.816.5903 (cell/text) Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987 On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:38 PM Chris Patton <cpatton@prescs.org<mailto:cpatton@prescs.org>> wrote: Hi, I was asked about a Premier Jewelry Consultant having a jewelry show where a portion of the proceeds would come to our organization. That sounded fine, but now I am learning this jewelry consultant is having this on our property and there is a ticket price of $10 to attend and attendees will receive a bingo card. I don't want to squelch the enthusiasm of the consultant and employee who connected them but, HELP! What have others done in this situation? Thanks, Chris Patton Presbyterian Communities and Services Foundation CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information in this email message is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return it to the address above. Thank you.