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  • 1.  Quid pro quo against pledge?

    Posted 08-28-2023 09:12 AM
    We have a donor who's made a large pledge to our university, to be paid partially over the next few years and the balance from their estate. Our Foundation has agreed to pay some small legal costs relating to the bequest pledge portion and we will be recording that as an irrevocable pledge. Our CFO is saying we should reduce the recognized pledge value now against the amount we're paying as a quid pro quo, but it seems to me we can't recognize the quid pro quo until money is received by us, and then we would adjust the charitable amount of that first payment. 

    Has anyone else dealt with a situation like this or have any best practices? I just don't see how we can recognize a QPQ when we haven't received anything yet. 

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  • 2.  RE: Quid pro quo against pledge?

    Posted 08-28-2023 09:54 AM

    Hi Rebecca,

    I think it's possible both you and your CFO are right but may just be referencing different points of usage of the quid info. It sounds like you are looking at it from the perspective of issuing tax receipts and are absolutely correct that the Quid should be reflected at the point you are issuing receipts.

     

    From your CFO's standpoint, I think it depends on what is meant my the word "recognize." If that refers to what should be recognized in fundraising reporting I would agree with your CFO that the net recognized amount should be reduced by the quid amount and the quid should be recorded in the pledge when it is set up. If you're CFO is referring to how it should be recognized as a receivable on the balance sheet, then they may be trying to make their life easier by not having to record a pledge receivable for the full amount and a corresponding liability for what your org has promised to deliver towards costs.

     

    If the latter is the case, I agree that you have a valid disagreement. Since you'll be managing the entire pledge, including quid, you should record the full amount, even if that creates a reconciling item or causes a little extra work for the finance folks.

     

    That's my view.

     

    John Smilde

    Director of Gifts and Records Administration

    Advancement and Alumni Relations

    George Mason University

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  • 3.  RE: Quid pro quo against pledge?

    Posted 08-28-2023 10:08 AM
    I have a slightly different take on this. If you will pay legal fees, those should be treated separately from the commitment.

    The commitment should equal 100% of what the donor has agreed to donate to your organization.

    I think your agreement to pay certain legal fees (an activity I advise against, but that's your decision) should be handled as an unrelated business transaction. Further, if these are fees the donor is obligated to pay, but you have agreed to help them out, those payments may need to be reported as income to the donor.

    John

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  • 4.  RE: Quid pro quo against pledge?

    Posted 08-28-2023 11:43 AM
    Hi Rebecca, 

    Your CRM may allow you to record a QPQ on a pledge, not just on a payment -- Raiser's Edge does, for example. 

    In  any case, it's typically a better practice to address this by not having a QPQ gift at all. Either have the donor cover their own fees, and donate a lesser amount if necessary, and or have a separate transaction to deal with the fee payment, and have a clean pledge.  



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