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  • 1.  Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust

    Posted 07-09-2025 12:01 PM

    Our local bank holds a CRAT from a donor that was booked as a planned gift in RE in 2021. It is an education trust for grandchildren. The grandchildren have 5 years after high school graduation to use for education purposes. The last grandchild graduated in 2022 so the remaining amount will come to our university after the 5-year period ends. So we will receive the funds in early 2028.

    Apparently our office has been changing the amount of the planned gift each year on June 30 to reflect the currant value of the trust, 

    I am thinking it should have stayed as it was booked in 2021 and then if the amount is larger in 2028, we could then book the additional amount in our fundraising totals that year. Is this correct? 



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    Kristy Hill
    Lander University
    khill@lander.edu
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  • 2.  RE: Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust

    Posted 07-09-2025 12:06 PM
    You are correct. The CRAT was a gift once at the time it was established. There is no additional gift after that. Any other value changes are basically investment gains (or losses).

    John

    John H. Taylor, Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier Street
    Durham, NC     27705

    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987






  • 3.  RE: Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust

    Posted 07-09-2025 12:32 PM

    Thank you, John. So, we would not be allowed to record an additional amount in 2028 for the value received over the original planned gift?

    Thanks!



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    Kristy Hill
    Lander University
    khill@lander.edu
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  • 4.  RE: Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust

    Posted 07-09-2025 12:38 PM
    That is correct. The gift is what it was when it was established. Any value changes are attributed to market conditions, much like when a donor establishes an endowment.

    You should record both the face and IRS values for revocable deferred gifts only once, when they are established.

    There are two times when you might be able to record a "second" gift. The first is a bequest expectancy. If you realize more than the established amount during the same campaign, you can count the difference in that campaign.

    Some irrevocable planned gifts allow donors to "add" more cash to the gift (the same is true for bequests if the donor changes their will). That additional amount only (no market changes to the original amount) can be recorded as a new gift.

    John

    John H. Taylor, Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier Street
    Durham, NC     27705

    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987







  • 5.  RE: Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust

    Posted 07-09-2025 12:47 PM
    A correction:

    CASE now permits counting an increase in the realized bequest only when the realization occurs within five years of the original gift, whether you are in a campaign is no longer a requirement:

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    John H. Taylor, Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier Street
    Durham, NC     27705

    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987







  • 6.  RE: Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust

    Posted 07-09-2025 12:53 PM
    BTW, there are two references to excluding investment gains in the CASE Standards. The first is on page 26 as part of the exclusions table:

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    The second is on page 31 in the discussion on marketable securities:

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    John H. Taylor, Principal
    John H. Taylor Consulting, LLC
    2604 Sevier Street
    Durham, NC     27705

    919.816.5903 (cell/text)

    Serving the Advancement Community Since 1987







  • 7.  RE: Charitable Remainder Annuity Trust

    Posted 07-14-2025 08:33 AM

    This is great information! Thank you!



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    Kristy Hill
    Lander University
    khill@lander.edu
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